First, number 5 declares that the members of the church are only saved people. Well, this is the natural conclusion to denying the universal, or invisible, church. If the church is only a visible building, then how can anyone be unsaved in it? The argument goes that since Christ promised perpetuity to the church, the church can't have unsaved people in it (Matt. 16:18). Of course, Christ also told us that there would be tares sown in amongst the wheat (Matt. 13:24-53) and that there would be wolves out there in sheeps' clothing (Matt. 7:14-16). Likewise, Paul said that there would be false apostles that masquerade as ministers of righteousness (2 Cor. 11:13-15). It is clear that sinners and saints will attend church side by side, sometimes totally indistinguishable from each other. So, logically, the church cannot be the mere visible building if we are to believe what Christ said about the perpetuity of the church. While the visible church is made up of saints alongside false Christians, the universal, invisible church is made up of only believers. So, in a sense this point is right, but Dr. Anderson does not mean it in the correct way. I'd also want to know why, if there are only saved people in the physical church building, so many Baptist congregations have "invitations" to the unsaved. Not that Mr. Carroll's church does, but this is yet another glaring inconsistency. It is not the mark of a true visible church to consist of only saved people, that is the mark of the universal, or invisible church.
The 9th mark of a true church is even more absurd. Notice what is being quoted from 1 Corinthians 9:14:
"Even so (tithes and offerings) hath the Lord ordained that they which preach the gospel should live of the gospel."
Now here is the verse, as it actually appears in the King James Bible (which is generally what Landmark Baptist churches use):
"Even so hath the Lord ordained that they which preach the gospel should live of the gospel."
There is a clear twisting of scripture here for many reasons, amongst which are:
- This verse is not about tithes and offerings, nor is any verse in this entire chapter, nor is any verse in this entire epistle.
- Paul is speaking about being a partaker of the gospel, and even pronounces a woe upon himself if he fails to preach it (v. 16). This is because the job of all Christians is to "live of the gospel" as the King James puts it, not to literally receive money for it but rather to be partakers of it, to preach it, and to spread it to all nations.
- Paul makes a point to mention that the gospel isn't for sale (v. 18).
- To read this verse as Mr. Carroll puts it, we would have to assume the gospel is tithes and offerings, not the forgiveness of sins and resurrection from the dead.
- Nowhere in the New Testament are tithes and offerings ordained for any reason, and although this is certainly a way for a church to support itself we find that Paul supported himself through other work while preaching the gospel (2 Thess. 3:8). It seems odd that no epistle outright tells us to follow the Jewish tithe or that offerings are the only means which a minister can live off of, especially if it is a mark of a true church.
If we are to believe Mr. Carroll, then the marks of a true church include a contradiction to scripture and scripture twisting. Well, that may be true of his church but it is certainly no church I'd want to attend.
